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		<title>Definitely Too Scathing, and Too Sophomoric, for the New York Times Comment Police</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our chances of getting a comment through the NY Times comment censorship police, and any Maureen Dowd column, are probably about as good as the Oakland Raiders chances of winning the Super Bowl so long as Tom Cable (bless his passion though), is head coach.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our chances of getting a comment through the NY Times comment censorship police, and any Maureen Dowd column, are probably about as good as the Oakland Raiders chances of winning the Super Bowl so long as Tom Cable (bless his passion though), is head coach.</p>
<p>There are a few reasons for this, that seem transparent, and perhaps, others, more veiled.  We don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>First, as documented frequently, <a href="http://donkasauruspost.com/2010/01/27/ny-times-maureen-dowd-indulges-freudianally-but-loves-stereotypes-even-more/">this website is not a fan of the one time Pulitzer prize winning and now seemingly vacuous, vague, stereotpying, false balancing Dowd</a>. Nor is this rather well researched, and written site <a href="http://www.dailyhowler.com/">here</a> (by a former college roommate of Tommy Lee Jones, Eric Siegel, and Al Gore).  Although that is a decidedly liberal site, whereas Donkasaurus Post is decidedly neutral (with due note that in today&#8217;s world&#8217;s, the facts themselves, are decidedly not) <a href="http://www.google.com/custom?q=dowd&amp;sa=go&amp;cof=AH:center;AWFID:c32a032061318778;&amp;domains=dailyhowler.com&amp;sitesearch=dailyhowler.com">a snapshot look as to the reasons why that site is also not a fan of Dowd&#8217;s</a>, is illuminating.</p>
<p>And we know &#8212; <a href="http://donkasauruspost.com/2010/02/10/title/">or at least it seems</a> &#8212; that Dowd&#8217;s site carefully monitors to protect her from overly critical assessments of her work.</p>
<p>And third, we imagine that despite the inanity, and borderline sexual indulgence <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/27/opinion/27dowd.html?">of some of Dowd&#8217;s columns</a>, the Times does not want to encourage links to what it must surely (and somewhat ironically), view as puerile meanderings.</p>
<p>Today, Dowd wrote yet another somewhat inane, fanciful <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/14/opinion/14dowd.html">column</a>.  In it, she tried to make the point about extreme Cheney was. At the same time, she also played into some of Cheney&#8217;s arguments, and seemed to make the questionable assertion that Cheney had no right to criticize Obama&#8217;s approach to our &#8220;counter terrorism&#8221; efforts. (We refuse to use the idiotic &#8220;war on terror,&#8221; &#8220;war&#8221; &#8220;enemy combatants&#8221; or &#8220;battlefield,&#8221; all of which play right into these psychotic terrorist criminals recruitment and proselytizing efforts as something other than the simple, lowly, depraved common murderers that they are, and which they absolutely do not want to think of themselves as, or be perceived as.  <a href="http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/tue-february-9-2010-newt-gingrich">Newt Gingrich doesn&#8217;t get this point either</a>.)  And of course she played into the pure spin argument, while seemingly trying (ineffectively) to mock it, that Obama is &#8220;weak&#8221; on terrorism because he does not use five time military deferrer Cheney&#8217;s constant drumbeat of war rhetoric.</p>
<p>Thus, it was, that in response, the following comment was of course blocked from all fair readers potential considerations.  As submitted in comment form to the Dowd&#8217;s column today, unedited, unabridged, and unaltered from it&#8217;s original puerile fulsomeness:</p>
<blockquote><p>Well, you hit a lot of stereotypes Maureen, and played into a lot of misleading framing, but did so in a &#8216;balanced&#8217; way.</p>
<p>But were you just afraid it was going too far?</p>
<p>Or was there some other reason that you left out that in addition to being weak &#8212; and afraid to use the manly words &#8220;war&#8221; and &#8220;enemy combatants&#8221; even though this plays right into our lowly, common murderous psychotic enemy criminals&#8217; hands (and recruitment) that they are in some sort of grander &#8220;war&#8221; and are instead the more noble &#8220;combatants&#8221; in a war &#8212; how in addition to being weak, Obama is also prejudiced?</p>
<p>How&#8217;d you miss this clearly also relevant nugget. Weak and prejudiced. What kind of leader is that?</p>
<p>If Obama won&#8217;t frequently and constantly use &#8220;architect against terrorism&#8221; Dick Cheney&#8217;s manly war words and make our enemies all goose bumply thereby, couldn&#8217;t he at least cease from being prejudiced against homosexual fish, also?</p>
<p>It seems fair to ask.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSrtMPIqoaY&amp;feature=related">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSrtMPIqoaY&amp;feature=related</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/15/obama-calls-kanye-west-jackass/">http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/15/obama-calls-kanye-west-jackass/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://donkasauruspost.com/2009/09/15/beck-half-correct-president-obama-is-prejudiced-after-all-hates-gay-fish/">http://donkasauruspost.com/2009/09/15/beck-half-correct-president-obama-is-prejudiced-after-all-hates-gay-fish/</a></p>
<p>Dick could have pointed that out too, in the above fireside chat, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just askin.&#8217;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p>What a pity that the Times readers could not revel in the sophomoric-ness and juvenile-ness of it all, while reading about how Obama is &#8220;weak&#8221; on terrorism because he relies less upon grandiose sweeping battlefield phrasing, and how Obama should tell Cheney to be quiet because THAT emboldens our enemy. (When it seems to us that both are likely wrong. The only thing that emboldens our enemy is their irrational hatred of the U.S., and culturally psychotic approach to visualizing it, along with our turning them into something they are not. That is, combatants, rather than lowly murderous criminals, and playing up to them publicly in some big game of rhetoric, rather than quietly and powerfully framing the effort so as to lessen recruitment appeal, and finding, minimizing, and where applicable, wiping them out.)</p>
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		<title>The Observation that Was too Scathing for Maureen Dowd to Handle</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This humble, and somewhat obscure blog, if known, might not always be a favorite of Maureen Dowd&#8217;s.  Here&#8217;s a very recent, but we think fair, example.
Today, Dowd wrote a column in the NY Times very space limited op ed pages, essentially saying that 3d movies are cool, or might be cool, or that people [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This humble, and somewhat obscure blog, if known, might not always be a favorite of Maureen Dowd&#8217;s.  <a href="http://donkasauruspost.com/2010/01/27/ny-times-maureen-dowd-indulges-freudianally-but-loves-stereotypes-even-more/">Here&#8217;s a very recent, but we think fair, example</a>.</p>
<p>Today, Dowd wrote a <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/10/opinion/10dowd.html">column</a> in the NY Times very space limited op ed pages, essentially saying that 3d movies are cool, or might be cool, or that people like them, or some such.  In response to the column, one of our 82,000 or so Deputy Editors happened to witness the posting of the following comment to Dowd&#8217;s post. In full:</p>
<blockquote><p>Times&#8217; op-eds have nothing better to cover than 3d movies??</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t <a href="http://essays-letters-articles.com/2010/01/relax-campaign-finance-reform-is-only-to-protect-incumbents/">you write about this</a> &#8212; good update to a NY times comment on the issue, too.</p>
<p>Or <a href="http://essays-letters-articles.com/2010/01/goverment-infiltrationgood-intentions-and-our-founding-principles-of-government/">this</a>.</p>
<p>Nah.  Bring us movie talk on the oped page. Maybe Entertainment magazine&#8217;s editorial pages can cover the substantive stuff.</p></blockquote>
<p>Who knows who monitors these, but the comment was blocked from readers&#8217; gentle thought considerations. Unlike the one just below that makes a small fraction of the same point, while taking two ridiculous shots at President Obama for using a teleprompter (similar to essentially every other president ever since teleprompters have been in existence), and more. Or perhaps it was double reverse sophisticated satire, that few readers would ever get. <a href="http://community.nytimes.com/comments/www.nytimes.com/2010/02/10/opinion/10friedman.html?permid=51#comment51">We don&#8217;t know</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I wondered what compelling issues you would write about with the departure of the Bush administration. Movies, how fascinating! There is plenty of farce to be found in the Obama administration and the Democrat lead Congress. Tell us what you think about the teleprompter President please. No sarcasm needed, just the facts, and we can weep or laugh as prompted by his deeds.</p></blockquote>
<p>The links from the blocked comment &#8212; the one that was too thoughtful to actually allow in examples by way of contrast &#8212; go to substantive pieces regarding critical issues that go to what our country is all about. Yawn, snooze, ready?:</p>
<p>One on a subject that has been occasionally covered; the undue influence of corporations now, in addition to everything else, upon our election process in the wake of the abysmal decision in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission. (<a href="http://www.juliansanchez.com/2010/02/03/our-fragile-democracy/#comments">Some more analysis on Citizens that misses the point and paints a false paradox, with good commentary following</a>).</p>
<p>The other on something that has not been very well covered; <a href="http://essays-letters-articles.com/2010/01/goverment-infiltrationgood-intentions-and-our-founding-principles-of-government/">clandestine government infiltration into non governmental speech, influence and information activities, and its parallels</a> to the anti Constitutional theories upon some of the Bush Administration&#8217;s unchecked and clandestine actions to set aside Congressional Statutes &#8212; and even potentially set aside provisions of the Bill of Rights &#8212; were based.</p>
<p>Maybe this stuff is too highfalutin for Dowd.  Fair enough.  But entertainment merging as news is not what Thomas Jefferson had in mind when he said the given the choice between newspapers and government itself, he should take newspapers. And it was not because of their official op ed page opinions on 3d movies.</p>
<p>But then again, this is the NY Times. It&#8217;s not like it&#8217;s a leading newspaper or anything.  How could it be <a href="http://essays-letters-articles.com/2010/01/new-york-times-searches-far-and-wide-for-the-most-qualified-experts/">with op ed pieces like this</a>?</p>
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		<title>Hmmm, Where Have We Heard this Before?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Timothy Egan, in a NY Times column online:
Of course, Martha Coakley, the Democrat who lost in a state where only 13 percent of voters identified as Republicans, ran a campaign that should be a mandatory lesson for all her supporters in Cambridge.
Among other great sins, she belittled the retail politics of her opponent, who stood [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy Egan, <a href="http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/20/time-to-cowboy-up/?hp#postComment">in a NY Times column online</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Of course, Martha Coakley, the Democrat who lost in a state where only 13 percent of voters identified as Republicans, ran a campaign that should be a mandatory lesson for all her supporters in Cambridge.</p>
<p>Among other great sins, she belittled the retail politics of her opponent, who stood in the cold of a Bruins hockey game at Fenway Park, thus disparaging three great New England institutions a single two-second sound bite. It follows, then, that she didn’t know that Curt Schilling, the Boston pitcher who bled through his sox, was a Red Sox fan. Stealing a page from Mike Dukakis when he decided to spend August mowing his lawn while the 1988 presidential contest slipped away from him, her campaign essentially went dark with a double-digit lead. And she did what no Kennedy had ever done — she took the voter for granted.</p>
<p>&#8230;Democrats are good at bleeding, kvetching and woe-is-me-ing.</p></blockquote>
<p>Democrats taking voters for granted.</p>
<p>Democrats belittling opponents in ways that don&#8217;t speak out to those beyond their own base, but that invariably impugn the very voters that they need to reach. (We won&#8217;t add &#8220;Democrats mocking these suggestions as irrelevant, or worse, because, well &#8220;we told the truth,&#8221; &#8220;If we got the message, then doesn&#8217;t that prove it was effective?&#8221;  <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/28/798147/-W.H.-Advisor-Falls-Directly-into-Foxs-Trap,-Framing-Moves-Fox-Closer-to-Rest-of-Media,-and-More">See here</a>, for a classic example.)</p>
<p>Democrats then spending a whole lot of time, complaining about the very things that shouldn&#8217;t have happened, because it was all &#8220;so obvious.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, we&#8217;ve heard this before. </p>
<p>It also ties in with a post here yesterday that asked &#8220;Just how bad are Democrats at Controlling the Debate,&#8221; and which made the same point which Egan ascribes to Jon Stewart, whom he calls the most astute political commentator in America. (Maybe he&#8217;s just the best known.)</p>
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This huge majority, as America’s most astute political observer, Jon Stewart, pointed out, is far more than George W. Bush ever had, and he used it to do whatever he wanted to with the country.</p></blockquote>
<p>You don&#8217;t say. <a href="http://donkasauruspost.com/2010/01/20/just-how-bad-are-democrats-at-controlling-the-debate/">Our point, exactly<a/>. And we ask, <em>why</em>? </p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today, David Brooks doing what he does best;  and that is, miss the real story.
Brook&#8217;s aforelinked column, is a good one, in one sense.  It teaches some history.
In another sense, it is atrocious.
Brooks:  Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, have no power because they can not merely summon a wish, and have millions act upon their specific command. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today, David Brooks <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/02/opinion/02brooks.html?_r=1&amp;ref=opinion">doing what he does best</a>;  and that is, miss the real story.</p>
<p>Brook&#8217;s aforelinked column, is a good one, in one sense.  It teaches some history.</p>
<p>In another sense, it is atrocious.</p>
<p>Brooks:  Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, have no power because they can not merely summon a wish, and have millions act upon their specific command. </p>
<p>Wow, they are not Merlin the Magician. (Except when it comes to turning non truths into believable assertions, that is.)  Therefore, Brooks reasons, they are somewhat irrelevant, the strong implication throughout this piece goes.</p>
<p>Brooks even writes the following remarkable sentence:</p>
<blockquote><p>They are enabled by the slightly educated snobs who believe that Glenn Beck really is the voice of Middle America.</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps this is some sort of metaphor that is not immediately graspable. Beck is a somewhat deranged, rhetorically gifted genius, who has a very difficult time not only telling fact from fiction, but from not relying upon only those fictions which support his often incendiary and outrageous views.</p>
<p>He taps into a nerve, because hyperbole and outrageousness (which also, to many, make him appealing) aside, he reaches a general distrust and concern that people have, as well as plays upon the very ignorances that he himself does great service to wildly exacerbating.</p>
<p>And it is in this quality &#8212; their effect upon general mainstream information and perception, the overwhelmingly influence upon the nature of our debate, that this small handful of not very well informed by wildly accusatory and fanciful pundits &#8212; that these pundits are far far more important than they should be. Not their ability to singlehandedly, and magically, make millions change their voting predilections near instantaneously.</p>
<p>It should also be noted that Brooks essentially uses the example of John McCain, somewhat exaggerating these pundits&#8217; scorn for him, to make his point. But McCain easily pulled the most dramatic character change, from a somewhat media beguiling and crafty statesman, to blatantly Machievellian figure, perhaps ever occassioned on our national stage.</p>
<p>And he did so why? <em>Because he was not far right enough to win the nomination.</em></p>
<p>But Brooks missed that little detail, too.</p>
<p><strong>Update:</strong>  If by Beck and the like being &#8220;enabled&#8221; by &#8220;educated snobs&#8221; who continue to dismiss them as being &#8220;so obvious&#8221; to people, while not &#8212; particularly in the media &#8211; making the effective case as to how wildly misinformed and misleading these same pundits are, particularly given their enormous audiences and constant mentions &#8212; then yes, Brooks is correct here. But there is ample evidence Brooks does not mean this. Perhaps it is high time some of our &#8220;real&#8221; pundits like Brooks, however, started to.</p>
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